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Mike Wise's avatar

Hi Paul. Great question. I recently moved from Boston to Cleveland for personal reasons. Someone from Boston sent me your post. "Thought of you...."

To your question, I wouldn't be surprised - on a number of levels. We are surely seeing a massive shift caused by the maturation of IoT, Blockchain, and AI. And the politics of NYC are suboptimal at this point. However, money will always be a center of attention, and so NYC has more resiliency than Youngstown had with the steel industry.

If I remember correctly, another complicating factor for Y-town was the presence of the Italian mafia... Canfield seems to ring a bell in that context.

Possible good news though - we're working on a 5-year mission to make Northeast Ohio into a global hub for IoT manufacturing.

I heard you were out here trying to start something around GenAI. Let's partner.

Because, "All boats rise with the tide."

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Paul Baier's avatar

Mike, thanks the comment. Ohio and Northeast Ohio is dear to me (I grew up in Canton, Ohio; went to college at Kenyon College near Columbus, lived in Lakewood for 3 years after college; and still have family in NE Ohio. Cincy did a great job with "AI Cincy Week" maybe same in Cleveland. Maybe an organizing intro call Zoom call to test interest?

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NYUGrad's avatar

No. Majority of this city is built on wage workers. I have been here since 1980s. Then you have tourists. Then you have NYU and Columbia that own majority of real estate by SQ footage. Then you have mag 7 that have HQ here. Then you have tax benefits for wealthy to park money in. 20M 4 bed apt and pay the same tax as a 4 bedroom avg tax across all 5 boroughs. The reason majority of wage workers can't ever leave is they are suppressed by crushing taxes and govt programs to just get by.

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Miles Spencer's avatar

Like the idea, and I'm from Pittsburgh, so similar and different. As a current NY'ed what I see is FTE RIFs, but also massive upticks in productivity (by less people). Like many other super trends, it will depend on who is willing to keep up. I always think NYC will be a leaky bucket of migration, but in reality the worldwide funnel is so big it seems to never empty.

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